Posts by Half banana

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Is 1919 Important to the WT?

by Anon_SA1 in

does anyone know if the wt still claims they were appointed in 1919?

is there proof of this appointment?

any ideas where i can find out how they get to this date?

In the absence of any concrete demonstration of being God’s appointed in 1919 or any other year, the Borg’s tried and tested method of claiming the effects of Holy Spirit have all to do with their worldly success. In effect the WT reads like this: “Look we have eight million people bringing in their contributions and unloading their family’s inheritances into our coffers. See how Jerhoover is blessing us! ” followed by a non sequitur scriptural reference. (vomit)

1919 was a critical year financially for the Borg. The Watchtower leadership must remind each other of their in-house myth of how salvation came for them. It was a critical time what with Russell proving himself mortal three years before and the bailiff about to call, for they had run out of money (odd... because Russell died with a squillion Dollars cash in the safe). At the eleventh hour there was a believer, the fabled man who arrived with wads of Dollars stuffed inside his clothing, saving their bacon, as if by divine intervention. (Sorry, can’t find the reference at the mo)

Forget all the tiresome drivel about “inspection and cleansing” ...Who believes that nonsense anyway? You see this is how god really works for the WTBTS: his Holy $pirit is revealed by the presence of printed bank notes, that’s my theory of why 1919 was the year they were appointed... and let’s face it, what the WT says on one subject is just as worthless as what it says on any other subject.

So that’s why in the minds of the GB (whose motto is “Money First”) they were saved by wads of Dollars in 1919. And they continue to pull in the billions by dishonestly claiming ”It’s Doomsday folks, so roll up and join our cult and you will get a ticket to paradise!”

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First law of thermodynamics vs God vs Big Bang

by EndofMysteries in

first law of thermodynamics, that energy cannot be created or destroyed but changed from one form to another.

how does that fit in with god and the big bang to you?

does it make one make more sense then the other to you?

Half banana

Sowhatnow, yes it truly is a mystery but I can explain it away rather than know! I am not a physicist as others will note but this is how it could be spun.

Imagine billions of years ago the simple hydrogen atom (which at the sub-atomic level is only bound-up energy after all) and energy in equilibrium, not created, just there, swirling around space forming pockets of stronger potentialities in one place and weaker in others. Just as there must have been small zones of attraction and repulsion through the polarity differences or charge, there could also be large potentialities. Given cosmic time this could build up to stupendous velocities and charge and without a magic-maker-man, matter could be created, as Mr Einstein has proved.

(corrections always welcome!)

Next question: how did the energy get there?

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So, every sin can be forgiven, except Apostacy? Right...that makes sense.....

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so we know that the wt teaches that every sin can be forgiven, but if one leaves the org and becomes a "vile apostate", that is "sinning against the holy spirit" and can not be forgiven?.

so, murderous sick people are ok.. child abusers...ok. violent drug dealers ...ok. war mongering genocidal killers...ok. but, speak against the gb....not ok....you are the worst of the worst!.

makes perfect sense really hey?.

Half banana

I think you are forgetting that the GB are now immortal demi-gods who have the exclusive ear of him upstairs...now let’s have some respect around here.

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The difference between old school dubs and modern dubs - and the GB 2.0

by TheListener in

old school witnesses thrived on the fact they were different and persecuted for it.

it was a point of pride.. i think the whole witness experience is much more social based for younger and newer witnesses.

that may be why so many newer ones that come to this board cannot understand or accept some of the information we present here about how things "used to be".

Half banana

The GB is very aware that the social pressures to conform to their sectarian view are a powerful element of being a JW. Shunning would not work half as well if the socialising was not practised.

Social gatherings strongly help persuade the newbies to realise that the famed oddballs called Jehovah’s Witnesses are just ordinary people. Secondly, social gatherings are hardly ever religious in content so ordinary human interactions are possible.

Today with the new and glossy public relations makeover, JW zombies are being distracted from the perpetual doctrinal problems and are happy about belonging to an apparently progressive religion.

The end result is still total mind control and misinformation which upholds the GB’s sole aim to keep the money flowing in and the cult strong...but I do hope their new dalliance with public media will unwittingly expose their nasty cultic practises.

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Carbon-dating questions??

by DATA-DOG in

i recently heard a story from a jw about stupid scientists.

there was an awake article about archeaologist who found an ancient piece of art.

it was sent to a university for dating.

Half banana

DD, by dendrochronology to determine the age of the timber and stylistically for the period in which the timber was used for making the bed.

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WTS competition

by Half banana in

just now 10am friday morning, had a phone call from central london to tell me that opposite the houses of parliament outside westminster tube station the wts (wobbly trolley society) are standing there being overshadowed by others with loudspeaker and taller placards declaring "jws are a cult".

sounds like fun!.

but will this sort of publicity harm or benefit the jw org?.

Half banana

Then how do you counter high profile WTS presence and misinformation?

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Noah preached 100-120 years and no followers. What the hell was he preaching?

by James Mixon in

let me see if i have this straight.

we are to believe noah preached over a 100 years with 0 effect.. the bible records that lamech, noah's father had sons and daughter's but the number is not included.

to have a plural number of brothers and sisters, there would be at least four siblings, two brothers and two sisters.. my folks had 6 kids and 90 years later there are over 100 family members.. some say based on what's written in gen.6:3, noah preached anywhere between 100-120 years.

Half banana

As in: “the days of Noah” was a fiction and therefore ”the coming of the son of man” is too...

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Managing a doomsday cult

by Half banana in

the wtbts have only one objective: to keep their religious engine on the tracks.

the pastoral care of their followers (although they would publicly deny it) is right at the bottom of their priorities.they demand abject loyalty.

as a matter of sociological fact the subscribers to the watchtower belief are on average placed at the lowest rung of the income ladder and in the bottom category of the least educated of religious groups.

Half banana

In the interests of accuracy: Around 1927 saw the removal of Russell’s idea of saying that JC arrived in the heavens in 1874 and began ruling in 1878 and in normal doomsday cult date-wrangling, had to bring it forward to 1914. It was probably around 1943 when the literature first spoke of “Those who saw 1914 would still be alive at the end of the system of things”.

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Managing a doomsday cult

by Half banana in

the wtbts have only one objective: to keep their religious engine on the tracks.

the pastoral care of their followers (although they would publicly deny it) is right at the bottom of their priorities.they demand abject loyalty.

as a matter of sociological fact the subscribers to the watchtower belief are on average placed at the lowest rung of the income ladder and in the bottom category of the least educated of religious groups.

Half banana

What I find sickening is the way the WTBTS slide gently from one false perspective to another with no insider challenging the religious politics and prophetic failures which inevitably force those changes.

Surely no JW teaching has been more instrumental in bringing in more money and publishers than the false hope of the 1914 generation who would ”see the end of the system of things”. This amounts to a colossal fifty year hoax.

Today without the “1914 generation” all the previous half century’s propaganda has been exposed as utterly futile. All those talks... the false hope, all that printed page... all those lives wasted on this false doctrine. All hot air and futility. And yet 1914 was played by the org as their golden card for believing in them.

Now they lack any distinctive success to brag about, so they distract the disappointed sheep with a bright new toy. Blind them to their false teachings of the past, fudge over the errors and direct attention elsewhere.

Of course they now realise that the answer for mind control as any demagogue always knew, is media control ...and hence their very own snazzy jazzy internet indoctrination machine. To control the minds of people: use the media.

I do hope it turns round and bites them in the bum and the doubters within the org feel justified in leaving...in droves.

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WT now promoting literature officially at book fairs

by StarTrekAngel in

can there really be any doubt now on how commercial it is?

if you thought the new kh design seemed commercial in nature, now imagine one of those halls turned into a jw store.

we know they exist.

Half banana

Have you noticed that for a publishing company with such impressive print runs, not one of their books has any merit at all (unless you call indoctrination a merit) to the extent that none of the titles are ever quoted in scholarly use except in exposing the stupidity of its contents?